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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

EDIT: thought it would be funny (irritating?) to see these folks below up here again...? Besides, Rob should have found this one and realized we talked it out long ago (actually, I love doing it over and over and over...seriously).

Don't want to side track folks from the 'first tape' thread but had to share on the 11-7-71 Harding banter business High Flow and I got off on. This is part of what I miss on many early (smaller) shows vs later, larger venues (as when I was there in 70s, 80s): they often talked much more with/at the audience.

If you have five minutes, go to the archive for this date and just listen to the first two minutes prior to Truckin...f'in funny; they are so alive and energetic.

This post was modified by William Tell on 2008-07-24 14:24:26

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jul 24, 2008 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

Thats one of my favorite shows with lots of banter. The 7/14/70 show is funny too when they heap all kinds of abuse on Owsley during some tehnical problems between songs. Jerry says to Bear "you'd think after 5 years you'd have an ear" to which Bobby replies "trouble is that you'd think that!" In the background at one point Bear is heard saying "well I've got a vague whatever" and Jerry says to the audience, "There it is, a vague whatever!" Bobby says "how can ya hate a guy like that?" Funny stuff!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-07-14.sbd.cotsman.17815.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: craven714 Date: Jul 24, 2008 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

This qualifies as "early".
I'm not sure if this qualifies as "banter".

I think it's a case of Phils teret syndrome kicking in right after a pretty decent Doin That Rag

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-02-21.sbd.owen.7859.sbeok.shnf

I would love to know who he was yelling at (the band?!?!)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

Yep; I think that they just did more of it in the early years in the smaller venues...lost that as time passed and they played larger and larger crowds. Don't think they really knew what to do in those circumstances...

Still think the Harding Theatre show (11-7-71) is one of the best...they have technical difficulties and spend alot of time chatting it up...the beginning is classic ("if you were or if you ARE sitting at home next to the radio, you are hearing the sound FASTER than if you are in the hall!" --Jerry).

Can you believe this old post and the same old farts? SDH has been through a few name changes, eh?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

i think i am farting more the older i get

anyone else encountering this issue?

;-P

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 24, 2008 9:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

I was wondering what that foul smell was drifting in from the west...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

actually, that could be the bifurcated bovine anal implants i've been experimenting with..... not sure though

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 24, 2008 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

Are those the ones that are rib-eyed for your pleasure?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

lol!!!

good one :)

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jul 24, 2008 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

mmmm...I've been ruminating over your observation..for me its the same fart frequency as 20odd years ago, but more toxic. Can't hold the covers over the ole lady as b4, too dangerous ;)
My 1st post in over a month (or @2000farts ago)
Aint it grand?
Met some cool people at a head shop on Vassar st in Reno, one guy said he posts here sometimes as El Whoppo (?)
Also met some cool folks at the AlamedaCountyFair Los Lobos concert. Must have given away more than 30 GD CD's there. Hey now, Bay Area folks, Jerry Day is coming up soon. Check it out >> http://jerryday.org/

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

indubitably

Main Entry: in·du·bi·ta·ble
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)in-ˈdü-bə-tə-bəl, -ˈdyü-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English indubitabyll, from Latin indubitabilis, from in- + dubitabilis dubitable
Date: 15th century
: too evident to be doubted : unquestionable

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

Another poster with multiple names (above); interesting...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

You lost me there Mr. Tell, I for one am the one and only me and do not yet assume multiple personalities / personas.

My "indubitably" was simply a response to Dire's fart question. Since I never, ever looked up this word before decided to look it up and include the dictionary entry as I for one found it interesting that it actually derives from latin.

OK, I am done (for a short while anyway) being an ass now.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

My bad; was just scanning above and noticed that both SDH (three different names for him in this thread) and someone else (Roller?) and it just got me thinking about the whole handle thing we all got our undies in a bundy about so long ago...assume all of these are "legit" and in NO WAY associated with mult personalities to piss off folks, or confuse them...of course, many of us can really piss off folks just by being ourselves.

I am sure people HATE it when I dredge up old posts; I like it almost as much as polling, personally.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

I sort of liked the dredged up old post, or is that poll, or perhaps caber.

All in all I feel it was a fairly good day on the old GD forum - certianly helped breakup the entirely too busy work day.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

Agreed; "gang up on Rob day" I suppose. Fortunately, he's tough enough to take it; frankly, it takes all of us on the same team to have a fighting chance against him...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: Proving even Rob doesn't do his homework (JK!)

ahhh, but since he is on the other side of the pond, we are just not able to see the tears welling up in his baby blues.

our mature, adult-like banter is sure to make him feel inner pain and strife as he gazes forlornly into his computer monitor.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Nov 8, 2006 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

One of my favorite examples of early banter is from the first night at the Hollywood Palladium (trivia: this was the same theater where they filmed the big concert scene in the Blues Brothers movie)in August 71. Right before El Paso, Pig introduces Bobby as "..the prettiest and most compassionate man in show business, Mr. Candy Weir" I wonder if Pig knew that many years later Bobby would steal Richard Simmons' shorts.

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: "It's real simple -- would you like to hear music or do you want to get punched?"

Oct. 23, 1973: During Casey Jones the band gets pissed when security guards harrass the fans in the front. In the middle of the song someone yells, "Knock it off!" and a few moments later Phil stops playing and shouts, "Okay okay okay asshole, okay asshole, okay asshole, that's it for you, you're through." They start up again, but after a few more seconds someone shouts, "Hey don't beat on our audience, guy!" Kreutzman is said by one reviewer to have jumped out from behind his kit mid-song to tackle an overzealous security guard. Bobby urges everyone, "Quit throwing punches... Everybody quit throwing punches and we'll start playin again." After a few seconds Jerry threatens to end the show altogether and urges calm: "Cool it out here in front... Back down in front, don't yell at each other... Lighten up." Bobby says, "It's real simple -- would you like to hear music or do you want to get punched?" Phil contributes, "It's real simple. Don't cross the barrier and you won't get punched." Eventually things settle down and they break into One More Saturday Night to end the show.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-10-23.sbd.partial.goetz.18899.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: kschneid Date: Nov 9, 2006 6:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

1966-11-19 BIODTL
Do yourself a favor, take the 3 minutes to listen to the song as well. Surfadelic!

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More Banter

I forget which acoustic show in 1970, but a guy in the audience yells "Louder!" and Jerry replies "Listen more carefully."

The acoustic show from 3/21/70 is also cool because the audience is so noisy and hopped-up so the band keeps telling them to quiet down. The very brief acoustic segment from 9/18/70 ends when Jerry tells the audience it's too insane onstage to go on.

The '69/70 shows are also full of discussions with Bear, as everyone in the band would periodically yell at him for not having the monitors right....Pig in particular would make dire threats, for instance on 10/31/70 he tells the soundman if the sound doesn't get fixed he's going to rip his head off and shit in it....

The band were chattering onstage in some late '72 shows as well I think; but after that they got pretty quiet, probably due to the size of the places - or maybe fame was making them aloof!

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Jul 24, 2008 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More Banter

1970? The original Harpur College 5/2/70 tapes have bit where Garcia gets pissed off, but they cut it from Dick's Pix 8. "If you guys wanna fight; we aren't gonna play music". There is some strong language from other band members on this segment just before that acoustic version of I know You Rider...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Nov 8, 2006 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

Hilarious banter before a smoking Masons Children on 12/28/69

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Nov 8, 2006 6:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

More recent good example: Shorline Solstice show in 89. Jerry: "Bob's having some trouble with his STUFF" referring to some ongoing technical issues Bob was having with his extensive equipment rack. They way he says "stuff" cracks me up every time. When my wife was reading this thread she looked at me and said "You're not really analyzing things they said on stage are you? I might be able to somewhat understand the music thing, but judging the best banter I can't get my head around" When I thought about it, I began to believe she may have a valid point; but hell with it, analyzing what you really care about is not that unusual. So, friends, forge ahead undaunted, I for one love these questions!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 8, 2006 6:16pm
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Ha--the wife is giving me the exact same line...but this obsession--er, hobby--is giving me way too much enjoyment to let it affect me. I've only been 'here' a short time, and I already feel a real kinship with folks. That's a good thing whatever it is you're doing...

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Nov 8, 2006 6:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

Don't know about the rest of you, but this here place has proven to be a fantastic place to get away from things for a little while. Like most of you, I have a job and a family that I work hard to keep happy and secure, but with those kind of responsiblities comes a good share of stress. Some may choose alcohol for release, some find themselves sinking into depression. But here, for a few minutes each day, we seem able to drop the load of daily life to commune with kindred spirits and laugh and think a little about things we truly care about. As I've gone over before, while my son was in Iraq last year, this place was one of the things that helped keep me sane. Immersing yourself in something you care about this much does no one any harm (and maybe keeps a few impared hippies off the streets for awhile) and serves as a tonic for what ails you. Thanks to all here, including the "lurkers", for we all play a part in making this the place that it is.

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Poster: jmm2112 Date: Jul 24, 2008 2:46pm
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I just had a lurker call me and ask me to tell you "thanks" (apparently it violates some Code of Lurking it he does it himself.)

Keep on lurkin'

James (Ala.)
1/2 man, 1/2 Lurker

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 6:26pm
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Jim?

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Poster: jmm2112 Date: Jul 25, 2008 6:42am
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Jim Wise? Naw, that ain't me--I would never touch someone's levels, man.

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Poster: jhender501 Date: Nov 8, 2006 9:25pm
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Well said, Lehighvet.


Jim

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 9, 2006 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

Some of the amusing banter I heard in person at the Carousel Ballroom (Fillmore West) in 1970 is missing from surviving tapes (in one case, only 2 songs or so exist from a particular night).

I wrote my recollections of said banter in my reviews or on previous posts.

After 1971, at (Bay Area) gigs I went to, including small venues with the JGB, I don't recall them ever talking to the audience again. The cut-off point may have been the big freak-out at Winterland when dosed water was gulped by unwary audience.

This may be different outside SF.

Also I haven't heard every tape.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Nov 9, 2006 7:06am
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Theres a couple of spots in the 5/15/70 show where Jerry lashes out at people that are alsmost heckling them. I think he actually tells a lady to shut the f up, we know the names of the songs already! They just weren't taking shit from anyone at that point. Precious.

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Poster: HiRoller Date: Nov 9, 2006 12:23pm
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From this show is one of my favorite jokes any of the band told on stage. They're standing around tuning up, and in the background you hear some guy yell out "ALLIGATOR!," within seconds Pigpen comes up with, "Don't be hollerin' no emergency warnings in a place like this. An alligator loose in here could chomp off a bunch of feet, especially yours, buddy."

Also, Bill Graham's introduction at the beginning of the show is pretty good. Graham's like, "This is Pigpen on organ" and one of the guys, I can't tell who, is like, "Don't mention me in the same breath as him!"

This post was modified by Urban2803 on 2006-11-09 20:23:09

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Poster: JodyC Date: Nov 9, 2006 12:42pm
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Love Pig's sense of humor. He must of been an interesting guy to party with.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 9, 2006 2:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banter: early is better (?)

Yes--I know that one; early, 70 perhaps...He says "Philip Lesh of Marin Jr College" and Weir says "that's a lie" (I think he says "not in the same breath" too) and then he says "Jerry Garcia of..." and Jerry says "they'll never take me alive." Great stuff.